While I planned to be there, it turned out that I couldn't. I still
wish I had come. As a few have mentioned, they saw old friends, and met
"List" friends.
As we say in the Chrysler 300 Int'l Club, "We come for the cars, but we
stay for the people".
We all correspond with many different people with different
makes/models on the list, but it must have been great to meet everyone
and swapped stories 'til the wee hours of the mornings.
Ray
On Jun 17, 2007, at 6:56 PM, willbarq@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
The reality is that the supply of cars are shrinking from this era.
Everyday the "restoration" hobby becomes more and more a rich man sport
with profit as the main motivator. You would not believe the number of
everyday Joes who consider these vehicles out of reach financially and
impractical to own because you can't "drive or use" them. When I drive
my piece of **** Newport anywhere other than around my hometown it
might as well be a Ferrari.
-- John McCann <jmccann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It was sad to see the condition of Miss Belvedere but, thanks to the
event many people were able to see the many fine restored vehicles that
came to the event, not just Plymouths but the whole Chrysler line from
the mid fifties. I wonder if some of the youngsters attending the show
might have been bitten by the restoration bug and will preserve the
fifties for a few more generations.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Mopar Mel
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 12:16 PM
Subject: *****SPAM***** Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time
Capsule - The Car Connection
Just my two cents,,, I wished they would have never put the car in a
capsual, I wished they would have just given it away in 57 to
someone,,, it’s a crying shame to see this car in this condition…
such a thing of beauty when it was new…there is no reason it couldn’t
have been brought out just as it was put in… it can never be brought
back to its original new condition… not that it cant be restored but
its just too bad …. I cant believe that the people of Tulsa who done
this wouldn’t have studied things a little bit better like water
table and leak proof, at lease with drain tile so that NO water would
have stayed in. The concept is fantastic but the planning was done by
someone who didn’t think very well.. I personally think my 10 yr. old
granddaughter would have thought things thru better then they did. Its
just such a crying shame… Id rather do a fire damage car than a water
damage car… just everything is shot… there is just NO reason why this
car couldn’t have been brought out, drained out the fluids, and
started up on the spot, and driven away. It makes me cry when I look
at these photos,,, I was feeling very bad that I didn’t go to Tulsa to
watch this fantastic advent. But Im glad I didn’t waste the gas now.
.I would have been so angry to see this in person. Its great that the
people who went to support the mopar side of the world but,, Im not
disappointed that I didn’t go personally. I think I would have
cried…….
Just my 2 cents worth
mel
-----Original Message-----
From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List
[mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Stragand
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:47 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car
Connection
I would echo the "no restoration" sentiment, and it is by far the
prevailing opinion of all we talked to.
Tulsa does not have any plans to do any restoration or cleaning of the
car at this time.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Forward Look Mopar Discussion List"
<L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:11:18
To:"L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] '57 Plymouth Waking from Time Capsule - The Car
Connection
In a message dated 6/17/2007 6:44:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wbh@xxxxxxxxx writes: "Looks to me like Tulsa and surrounds were
flooded on a regular basis
up until the 1990s.
http://www.cityoftulsa.org/CityServices/FloodControl/History.asp
It also looks like the courthouse is only a half mile or less from The
Arkansas River."
With all due respect to the citizens of the area, it seems to me that
they MUST have known AT LEAST of the PROBABILITY of flooding, and I
would guess that the public officials at the time cared only about the
immediate short-term benefits of publicity. It's the old "100 years
from now, nobody will know the difference" syndrome.
Unfortunately for them, our print and film media caught up with them.
Likely they're all gone by now, but hope that if any are still around,
someone thinks to ask "What were you thinking? !!!"
While I'm up on my soapbox: I keep reading of people remarking that
"It could be restored." No, no, a thousand times no! It should be
preserved as it is (After a wash job) in a dry location (The Chrysler
Museum?) as a memento of this event. It is unique. To restore it
would make it into just another restored car. I already have one of
those in my garage.
I'll step down, now.
Joe Savard
Lake Orion, Michigan
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