Re: IML: 1961 imperial no brake lights

[aeyn <mr85000@xxxxxxxxx>]

Check the lamp filaments of the double filament ones.  If there
is a broken filament and it is touching the other one it can
cause some VERY strange happenings.  I had this happen on my 69,
and it was NOT very easy as I went through ALL 12 of the turn
signal relays, THEN I checked the actual lamps and found a broken
filament.

Æyn & Patrick



--- Dick Benjamin <DickB@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> THAT is decidedly wierd!  Has someone modified your car? There
> should not be another flasher on the car unless someone has
> retrofitted it with emergency flashers (4-ways).
> 
> Regarding the various suggestions involving the parking light
> sockets etc. - there is no connection between the brake lights
> and the parking lights - they are on totally different circuits
> - at least they are SUPPOSED to be!
> 
> Electrical circuits can do strange things sometimes, especially
> when the car is old enough to develop spurious electrical paths
> that are not designed into the car, due to corrosion etc., so I
> cannot say for certain that a bad ground on a parking light
> socket can cause brake lights to fail - but I'd have to see a
> schematic of THAT circuit to convince me.
> 
> Dick
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Mark Battesby 
>   To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:05 AM
>   Subject: Re: IML: 1961 imperial no brake lights
> 
> 
>   ok Ill try that but you dont think it has anything to do with
> the flasher cause my blinkers work whether the flasher unit is
> plugged in or not ?
> 
>   Dick Benjamin <DickB@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
>     This situation comes up about 6 times a year on the IML -
> you can find many discussions in the archive...  Most likely,
> the failure is in your turn signal switch.  
> 
>     If you study the wiring diagram in the FSM, you can see
> where to probe with your meter or test light to prove this to
> yourself.  
> 
>     The 12 volts from the brake light switch is routed through
> the turn signal switch to direct it to the rear light sockets,
> because the turn signals share the same filaments in the bulbs
> - the brake light current has to be interrupted by the turn
> signal switch when you are signalling for a turn at the same
> time you are stepping on the brakes.  
> 
>     When the turn signal switch becomes worn, it usually starts
> to interrupt the brake light signal even when you are NOT
> signalling for a turn.  
> 
>     Sometimes, you can make the problem go away (momentarily)
> by wiggling the turn signal switch.  Have someone stand behind
> the car (or back up to a wall where you can see the red glow)
> and wiggle the TS switch  while you press on the brake pedal -
> you may be able to find a position of  the handle where the
> brake lights work - if this is the case, start searching for a
> replacement turn signal switch.
> 
>     Dick Benjamin
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Mark Battesby 
>       To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>       Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:33 AM
>       Subject: IML: 1961 imperial no brake lights
> 
> 
>       Can someone give me some advise. Got no brake lights. I
> checked the power going to the switch its good . I put in a new
> switch its the kind that is in line with the fluid. No brake
> lights.  Now could it be the bulbs cause the blinkers and tail
> lights work there all in one ? I don't think so There is
> something weird going on though. When I start the car It starts
> with tail lights on . Even though the light switch is off. But
> there not on solid  they pulsate. To make this all go away all
> I have to do is turn the blinkers on  and off and the tail
> light go  off . Isn't that strange. Anyone have any advise ? 
> 
> 



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