Re: replacing gaskets: engine oil pan and Torquflite

[Doug Daniel <dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>]

herb has it right on the nail ,,,but with out a doubt drain converter and change the filter and new fluid  then your good to go ,do not over do the rtv  

--- On Sun, 1/3/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: replacing gaskets: engine oil pan and Torquflite
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, January 3, 2010, 2:52 PM
> 
> 
> Get a second gasket for the top.  Also it is a good
> idea to put a thin coat
> of RTV on both sides of both gaskets and torque them
> down.  People get
> carried away with beads of RTV that squeeze into the engine
> and clog up the
> oil pickup.
> 
> 1.  The fluid is actually up into the tube, and it is
> correct.
> 
> 2.  The cork/rubber is a big improvement and I would
> use the same technic
> with RTV as the engine oil pan.
> 
> 3.  Their is about eight more quarts in the converter
> if you want to drain
> it.  If your fluid is burnt I would recommend changing
> it also.  If not just
> what is in the pan is OK but would recommend cleaning the
> screen or
> replacing the filter what ever your application is. 
> If you have not drained
> the converter starting the engine & adding fluid is no
> problem.  Just
> remember check the fluid in newtral, not park.  The
> precaution of
> overfilling initially is when starting with a empty
> converter and putting
> more than five or six quarts and then starting the
> engine.  You will not
> have any problems with draining just the pan!
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Let us know how the disc conversion worked out also!!
> 
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>  Herb 
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> -------Original Message-------
>  
> From: Butch Edison
> Date: 1/3/2010 1:04:29 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: replacing gaskets: engine oil pan and Torquflite
>  
> Welcome to the new year everyone. My son and I spent a good
> deal of the
> holidays rebuilding the front end of one of my 64 Sport
> Furys and converting
> the drum brakes to disc. Both the oil pan and transmission
> pan were leaking,
> so dropped them both to re-seal. Some questions I have,
> would appreciate
> your help:
>  
> Engine Oil pan: I'd pre-purchased a rubber and steel oil
> pan gasket. To my
> surprise, when I dropped the oil pan, there is a windage
> tray on the motor.
> This wasn't done in 1964 for 383 engines from the factory.
> I'm assuming
> whoever rebuilt the engine put it in for a reason, so will
> stick with it, so
> do I need another gasket to go on top of the windage tray?
> You may have
> other, better ideas. Sealant? If so, what type and any
> cautions about use
> would be appreciated. I flattened out all the dimples
> around the bolt holes
> on the pan, so am pretty much good to go there.
>  
> Transmission pan: The car has the original ball &
> trunnion set up, A727
> transmission.
> 1. I can see that someone put in a chrome dipstick tube,
> which prompts my
> first question. With the pan off, I can see that the
> dipstick only protrudes
> into the oil sump about 3/8". If you have a similar setup,
> do you recall if
> this is correct? Seems weird to me that the markings for
> low-high on the
> dipstick are actually a ways up the dipstick into the
> tube.
> 2. The only gasket I could get through my local parts house
> is a cork and
> rubber gasket. I've not changed a gasket in 40 years, but
> hated the cork
> ones we used at that time. Lot of mumbo jumbo then about
> soaking the
> gaskets, using gasket sealer, catching a full moon, doing a
> secret
> handshake, etc. How do you recommend sealing up the
> transmission pan.
> 3. I got about 4 1/2 quarts of tf fluid when I dropped the
> pan. That seems
> like a lot, which is why I questioned the length of the dip
> stick. Assuming
> I put in the amount I got out, should I put in 3 quarts
> before starting the
> engine, run it for a minute, then add another quart with
> the engine off,
> test from there? I'd seen some cautions previously about
> adding too much
> initially and don't want that, but also don't want to
> starve the
> transmission.
>  
> Thanks all. /Butch/ Ferndale, WA
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