RE: Beginners question sorry

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

All this talk about poly motors has me regretting putting a 383 in my 65 Coronet 2 dr post.
I still have the poly motor that I took out and have promised the cam to Gary P.
If anyone wants something else, let me know.
It has sat for over 2 years with no cover on it so I don't know what the pistons or cylinder walls look at.
It ran very good when I removed it.

Later
Bill

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Beginners question sorry
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 10:29 PM
> 
> Yep, I have a 440 on a stand with $350 in maching in it.
> That was going 
> in my '64 until my job went South. Then I thought it'd be
> cheaper to do 
> the poly. I'm not so sure but I gotta admit it's a much
> more interesting 
> car the way it turned out. I don't think I'd
> have all my "fans" without the poly. I'm even having evil
> thoughts about 
> doing another poly but much bigger and badder :-) I've had
> a builder 
> that wanted my poly and that just might finance another 
> project! I gotta get this one maxxed out first though.
> 
> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> =====================================================================
> Dennis C. wrote:
> > 
> > OK,
> > 
> > I had plans for someday in the future to remove the
> 318 Poly from my 64 
> > and put a big block in - I think you just screwed up
> my plans.
> > 
> > You have me thinking really hard about stroking the
> old 318, rebuilding 
> > the old automatic and having some fun with it.  I
> knew the poly was a 
> > nice engine but I guess I never really knew how nice.
> > 
> > Thanks for the great information.
> > 
> > Dennis C.
> > 
> > 
> > Gary Pavlovich wrote:
> > > 
> > > Dave,
> > > 
> > > The  318A "Poly" engine that many refer to
> is nicknamed a "Poly" because 
> > > 
> > > the 
> > > head design is a Polyspherical combustion chamber
> with canted valves 
> > > (angled 
> > > intake & offset from the exhaust - not in the
> same plane and side by 
> > > side as 
> > > the Wedge chamber) as opposed to a HEMIspherical
> chamber.
> > > 
> > > The Plymouth Poly was produced from 1956-66 as a
> 277, 301, 303, 313, 
> > > 318, 
> > > and 326 (1959 Dodge only) and shares many of the
> same parts as the later 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 273/318/340/360LA Wedge-head engines. 
> Sometimes the aforementioned 
> > > Wedge-head engines are mistakenly called "A"
> engines which can be 
> > > confusing.
> > > 
> > > Interestingly, the modern 4.7 Chrysler engines
> are a Polyspherical 
> > > chamber 
> > > design and not a wedge design; even the new
> HEMI's are not true 90degree 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hemispherical valve layout.
> > > 
> > > The BMEP, brake-mean-effective-pressure of a Poly
> engine is far superior 
> > > 
> > > to 
> > > the Wedge chamber and slightly behind the HEMI;
> > > 
> > > "...the poly engine had one absolutely unique
> feature: its volumetric 
> > > efficiency. If the Mopar figures as found in the
> Plymouth factory manual 
> > > 
> > > are 
> > > to be believed, torque of the poly 318 was 345
> lb.ft. Now, take torque 
> > > and 
> > > divide it by cubes, then multiply this by 151,
> and you get brake mean 
> > > effective pressure (bmep). Try it for your self:
> bmep for the poly 318 
> > > is 
> > > 164 psi. (Again, that's the figure Plymouth
> gives). That is near to the 
> > > theoretical limit for an unsupercharged engine
> (and that's with the old 
> > > log-type exhaust manifolds too) and is very close
> to the 426 hemi's bmep 
> > > 
> > > of 
> > > 173psi, which had all those performance-designed
> components. The bmep 
> > > figure 
> > > purely reflects breathing efficiency
> (proportional use of the charge 
> > > coming 
> > > into the engine), and is a product of the head,
> as opposed to the block, 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > which just needs to suck/blow as rapidly as
> possible without flying into 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > little pieces..."
> > > 
> > > Gary Pavlovich
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Dave Isle" <mnwildpunk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:56 PM
> > > Subject: Beginners question sorry
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > I see a lot of you guys saying you have a
> poly this or a poly that. I 
> > > > know 
> > > > it is a type of engine but which one is it
> and what makes it a poly.
> > > >
> > > >           
>     Thank you for being patient and answering this
> probably 
> > > > silly question. 
>    Dave
> > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> > > >
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> > 
> > 
> > 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Van Conversion
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> 
> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> 
> 
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